[concurrency-interest] Transactional memory on GCC 4.7.0, what about Java?

√iktor Ҡlang viktor.klang at gmail.com
Mon Nov 21 17:57:21 EST 2011


I think that managed references is the only way to go when it comes to STM.
You can't make it implicit since traditional "OO"-code is completely ridden
with side effects.

Cheers,
√

On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 11:03 PM, Rémi Forax <forax at univ-mlv.fr> wrote:

>  On 11/21/2011 08:04 PM, Guy Korland wrote:
>
>  Not all the issues are solved, but it seems like most of the issues have
> good answers.
> Also, notice that in .NET they have issues which Java doesn't have like
> Native code and pointers in C++.
>
> Guy
>
>
> And how do you solve the IO problems (when you retry) ?
> Also the semantics chosen by Microsoft when an exception is thrown
> and the one chosen by GCC is not the same.
>
> cheers,
> Rémi
>
>
>  > Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2011 09:21:23 +0000ך
>>
>> > From: Mark Thornton <mthornton at optrak.com>
>> > To: concurrency-interest at cs.oswego.edu
>> > Subject: Re: [concurrency-interest] Transactional memory on GCC 4.7.0,
>> >        what about Java?
>> > Message-ID: <4EC77513.5040807 at optrak.com>
>> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; Format="flowed"
>> >
>> > On 19/11/11 07:00, Guy Korland wrote:
>> >> Hardware support might be great but it seems like it won't be
>> >> generally available in the near future, while STM is becoming,
>> >> widely available see Scala, Intel C++, and GCC 4.7... I think this
>> >> process should start in Java also.
>> >>
>> >> Regards,
>> >> Guy Korland
>> >>
>> > Yet Microsoft abandoned STM.net after 6 years development.
>> >
>> >
>> http://www.bluebytesoftware.com/blog/2010/01/03/ABriefRetrospectiveOnTransactionalMemory.aspx
>> >
>> > Have the issues changed or the has the focus been narrowed to something
>> > which is achievable?
>> >
>> > Mark Thornton
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
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